Today, my fellow blogger and electrophysiologist (and soon-to-be mom!!) The Cellular Scale and I are swapping blog posts. I am over at her blog writing about science, and @TheCellularScale would like to hear your advice on the following:
Hi BabyAttachmode readers, thanks for letting me guest post
here. Honestly, I am hoping for some advice. I am a (senior) graduate student in
a computation/electrophysiology lab and am planning to graduate in December. Everything
is lined up for this to happen provided I actually write a lot in the next few
months. However, I am also 5 months pregnant (baby due in July).
This pregnancy was planned, and my advisor even thinks it is
good timing. She had her first child when she was finishing her Ph.D. as well,
and now she has tenure (It is possible, folks). I didn’t necessarily want to
try to have a baby right after I started a new post-doc position, but I also
didn’t want to wait forever. In addition, my impression is that the ‘clock’
starts ticking after you get your
Ph.D. (for early investigator status grants and so forth), so I rather delay
graduation now than delay productivity later.
But here is my question: When should I apply for
post-doctoral positions?
Now?
Part of me would like to apply right away and have a settled
position for January as soon as possible. Or alternatively if it is really
difficult for me to find a position, I would like to find that out sooner
rather than later. If I apply now, I could even work on submitting an F32 NRSA
grant with someone, and possibly have my own funding. The thing I am hesitant
about is that I am obviously pregnant,
and if I get invited to interviews any time in the next 4 months, I will be
HUGE. I am worried that I might not be a sharp and quick thinking as normal.
But more importantly, I am worried about implicit bias against mothers and
motherhood in academia. Will a potential advisor think that I’m not serious about
science or that I won’t have time to devote to the lab? Should I hold off
applying for positions for this reason?
Later?
There are benefits to applying later too. I have 3 papers
currently submitted (1 as first author), and it would be nice to have those
accepted before sending out my CV. But I worry about applying to post-doc
positions at the last minute. A recently graduated friend of mine (who had some
great publications) sent out about 100 applications/letters of interest and got
interviews for only 4 or 5. This is more or less terrifying to me, even though
he ultimately landed a great position. Also, I won’t be pregnant ‘later’, but I
will have a tiny baby... which I’m sure will present its own problems: For
example maybe I won’t be well rested for my interviews.
Any pros or cons that I am not considering? Any advice from
successful or unsuccessful post-doc applications?
First off, congrats on finishing up your thesis and papers!
ReplyDeleteI think the best thing anyone can do to try and change the "implicit bias against mothers and motherhood in academia" is to ignore it. If you're qualified, you'll get an interview, and if they then see that you're preggers on an interview, I see one of three things happening. First, if they are turned off by your condition, most likely you wouldn't want to work for them anyway (w/ or w/out a family!). Second, they may be at first turned off a bit, but then see that you're still accomplishing and moving forward, and this may help to change their stigma - this would be great! Third, they may not care a bit. In fact, perhaps they too had a baby between gradschool and postdoc, but were/are just too afraid to put that out in the open and proud that things have improved (though slightly) for you (I find this to be true for the 50-70 age group of female PIs that I've interacted with). In this job/funding climate I would start applying now. Good luck!
I agree with Anonymous; if a potential PI is put off by the fact that you're pregnant when you interview with them, they're also going to be less than happy when you need to leave early to pick your kid up from daycare when he is sick or when you need to take a break to pump milk or whatever. Also, in my opinion traveling is easier with your baby inside that out.
ReplyDeleteIf I were you I would just start looking (and hopefully interviewing) now, and then in the worst-case scenario if nothing works out, try again after the baby is born.
Personally, I've not interviewed when I was pregnant, but I did have lots of meetings about a collaborative paper and other stuff, and aside from a couple uncomfortable jokes in an attempt to say something about my pregnancy I have not experienced anything bad. But I have heard stories from PIs that were less than understanding about their post-doc's pregnancy...
Good luck applying for jobs!!
I'd apply now - and you may end up with nice timing that give you a (albeit unpaid) nice chunk of maternity leave.
ReplyDeleteBetter still, apply for jobs in the UK (or other European country) where you will actually get maternity leave, be subject to helpful anti-discrimination laws etc. A colleague applied for a job here due to start about 3 months after her due date and they were going to start her officially before that and give her maternity leave (with some pay, too!)
Also read carefully all family policies, check out reviews of campus daycare etc. etc.
Yes! I forgot to say that: the minute you know where you're going put your name on the daycare waiting list!
DeleteThanks! That is a good way to look at it. I like the idea that I might actually help reduce stigma by showing up and giving a good interview while pregnant.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was a grad student, someone came through the lab to interview for a postdoc position when she was ~7 months pregnant. Gave a great talk, got an offer, and joined the lab after taking about a year off to be with the baby. The pregnancy thing shouldn't be an issue for anyone, and if it is, you need to avoid that individual like the plague.
ReplyDeleteAlso, what universe is this in which people submit 100 postdoc applications? Most everyone I know (myself included) really had to scour the entire country to find 4-5 labs they really wanted to work in, and got interviews virtually everywhere they applied. I think the low success rate probably has something to do with a very unfocused individual sending off dozens of generic form-letter applications. If you target appropriate labs and make it clear that you've put a lot of thought into the letter you write for each PI, there's no reason you shouldn't do much better than that.
I'm a grad student with a 5 month old baby who has been carefully watching my colleagues on the postdoc hunt.
ReplyDeleteMy vote? Interview now.
Some of the "most desirable" postdocs seem to be arranged 9+ months in advance (someone correct me if this is wrong). Friend contacted a PI in July who said "I have a rig opening up next March. If you want it, it is yours." Two weeks later, she contacted him to say, "There are 4 people behind you in line for that rig. Let me know if you are coming here." Granted, said friend was pretty badass and applying to a high profile lab, but if he had a 3 month timetable she would have just said "nope, no room."
I could even work on submitting an F32 NRSA grant with someone, and possibly have my own funding.
FWIW, it seems to me that the most common "response" for postdoc applicants is "I'd love for you to come, but I don't have funding. If you can bring your own funding, then I can make room for you."
I am worried that I might not be a sharp and quick thinking as normal. ... I won’t be pregnant ‘later’, but I will have a tiny baby... which I’m sure will present its own problems You have no idea how you are going to be post partum. You might be back on your toes in two weeks like nothing happened. You might be living in a sleep deprived fog for 6 months. If you are breastfeeding, that will come with its own challenges, you might need to take a 30-40 minute "break" from your interview day every 2-3 hours to pump and/or feed. In many ways, you already know the challenges that you will face with doing interviews while pregnant and you can prepare for them accordingly, while the post-partum challenges are more uncertain (there are known unknowns and unknown unknowns). Practically speaking, you might not want to travel *with* the baby for the first few months, which could make timing interviews difficult.
But more importantly, I am worried about implicit bias against mothers and motherhood in academia.
The tough thing with this kind of implicit bias is that (1) it is implicit and (2) it is largely outside of your control. Better to avoid the PIs that will have issues w/ you being "in the family way" and deprive them of good scientists like yourself so that they die out quickly :)
If you want to "buy some time" and your current PI is willing, you could always defend in January after you next semester/quarter starts, then you'd still technically be a grad student for the rest of the semester, during which time you can work on revisions of your submitted papers, wrap up other loose ends, and take advantage of a few flexible months to spend extra time with your kiddo w/o feeling the need to "prove yourself" to a new PI.
Oh, and +1000 on the daycare advice. Actually, you should probably get your name on the waitlist of every daycare within 30 miles of every institution where you *might* apply for a position. Don't wait until tomorrow, do it yesterday, before you even send off inquiries to labs.
oops. apparently, I just wrote an entire blog post in the comments section :/
ReplyDeleteThanks for the great advice, everyone! It seems like it's a pretty unanimous 'now' rather than 'later'. And thanks on the daycare tip.
ReplyDeleteNot sure you need more input...lots of good advice above! I had my daughter in my last year of my PhD too and although our situation was a little different (I planned for a year off after I was done to look for a position), I agree that you should look now rather than later. And check when you will officially get your degree. I defended in late summer but because my university has only two times that they do degrees per year my degree is actually from Jan of the following year (good for the ticking clock on some grants, etc).
ReplyDeleteBut above all, be good to yourself. I think that sometimes we get lots of messages that you can do it all and you can... But pregnancy, birth and nursing are hard things on your body and your mind. I think it is good that you're thinking ahead to not being so sharp--it will likely be worse after the birth because sleep deprivation can do interesting things to your brain. I absolutely do not mean to be discouraging! But being aware and flexible in your plans can only reduce the stress. I thought I would do a lot more writing after my baby was born but the reality was quite different. I ended up with an emergency c-section to recover from and didn't function well with no sleep/major surgery/nursing/etc. So the first few months I barely opened the files for my thesis. Just remember that it doesn't last forever and everyone's situation is different (ie your baby may sleep wonderfully or not). But finding a lab that is understanding can be a huge help to making everything come together. My PhD adviser was great and it sounds like you have the support there too--why expect less from a PI?
I am not in your field (but am in a STEM field), so I do not feel competent to answer your main question. I just wanted to reply to this point:
ReplyDelete"A recently graduated friend of mine (who had some great publications) sent out about 100 applications/letters of interest and got interviews for only 4 or 5."
These kinds of stats aren't as bad as they sound. People apply everywhere because they can (electronic applications, standardized application materials) and because they have to (jobs are scarce, leveraging competing offers is valuable). Realistically, though, there are a handful of schools (5? 10?) where you know you have a decent shot at a position. These are the places where you've been to give a talk or where your advisor has friends or where you have a collaborator. In that sense, 100 is not really the correct denominator for that stat. If you put "schools where I or my advisor knows someone pretty well" in the denominator, it won't sound nearly as scary.
I'm commenting on here pretty late, so I'm not sure if you will see this. In my personal experience (HIV-virology and immunology), applying 9 months in advance may be too early. You'll learn pretty quickly if it is, as you'll start getting responses back that "I don't know if I'll have funding". I applied in February, saying I hoped to start in "the summer" and the timing was good, although even that was early for some labs to know their funding situations. I spent most of April doing interviews.
ReplyDeleteFor comparison statistics, I applied to ~15 labs and got interviews at half. In most cases, I actually applied to multiple labs at the same university. All the PIs were fine/encouraged me to look at multiple labs at their school and arranged that I could interview with all labs in one visit.
In all my interviews, I had lots and lots of time to talk to other students/postdocs/workers in the lab and get a feel for what life would be like in the lab. I don't know if you would rather be in a 9-5/40hr week lab, or in a 60 or 80+ hour lab, but you should be able to easily figure out the lab-life and how the PI reacts to outside needs (daycare schedules, sick kids, etc) during your interview.
I also don't think it hurts to wait to apply until you have more papers. No one is going to care if it took 5 years vs. 6 years to get your PhD (except maybe your PhD adviser).
Finally, if you happen to work for a well known and well respected PI and he/she is willing to lobby on your behalf, then none of the rest of this advice matters. If your PI is willing to call other people and say "BAM is a superstar, hire her" you will probably get a top post-doc.
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Thanks for the tips again, everyone. Here's an update: I sent out 3 letters and got a 'interesting, send me a recommendation letter', a direct invite for an interview (yay), and a 'let's talk, but I'm not sure about funding'.
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ReplyDeleteAm Jenni gouge, from Canada, Thank you Dr iayaryi for the Retrieve, A Lover Spell you cast for me And I'd like to thank you for it. My ex and I have been back together for a month now. And it's been even better than before. I think this time it's forever. We've been talking of moving in together, and maybe getting married in the future. Things between us are great. I thank you for helping to bring him back to me. After our time apart, we've learned to appreciate each other more, and not take anything for granted. Thank you. driayaryi2012@hotmail.com after trying and falling through other spell casters and witch doctors i had lost hope , but i thank God for giving me the ability to find you to solve my problems i now can't imagine that my business is doing better than i thought and i will always live to praise you....Dr iayaryi of driayaryi2012@hotmail.com
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My name is Ruth Moore,Am from UK,i never believe there will ever be a solution to my relationship problem with my lover. my lover called smith Moore threw me out of his house and brought in another lady who he now feels the only best for him. until one day i receive a phone call from a friend in the city that my man is going out on a date with another woman in town, i told her i am also surprise too, because since smith Moore has left me he hardly think nor call me. so after some few days my friend called Martha called me and told me that she has found a man that is very powerful, and he is a great herbalist from Africa, truly we all knows that Africans are blessed with so much herbal voodoo powers which they use to help much people, so he told me that the man name is prophet lord , that she will forward his email address for me so that i can contact him for help, so truly she sent me prophet lord email address and i contacted him that faithful day. he mailed me after a great while that my man will be back to me if only i believe on his work,so after 25hrs i receive a phone call from smith Moore, and he started begging that i should please forgive him against all he had done to me.. he begged me of breaking my heart and letting the other lady a new heart. he promise me never to let go. now i and Smith Moore are now planning to get married as soon as possible. we are brought back with the great powerful love spell and blinded with prophet lords pell, we are happy and glad. so i thank you sir for the great help you offer to me, because i think today this might be the only ways and means i can ever thank you of your work.. i am glad. you can contact him for a love spell today at: solutionoflovespelltemple@gmail.com thank you sir. Email him on: solutionoflovespelltemple@gmail.com
THE GREAT Dr. Areghan WHO BROUGHT MY HUSBAND BACK TO ME . My name is Ananbel Samson I live in USA, . My husband and I have been living a very happy and lovely life. So as time went on, I began to notice this strange attitude that he was possessing. He was now having another girl friend called jane, to the extent that he was no longer picking up my calls, and he was not even sleeping in my house anymore because of this new girl friend. I became confused and didn't know what to do . So i became worried and stranded, , because I have never experienced a thing like this before in my life. So I decided to visit a spell caster online, to see if he can help me out. So immediately I went to the internet, where I saw an amazing testimony of a spell caster who brought someone's ex lover back Dr. Areghan so I email him with his email getyourspelltemple@hotmail.com immediately and I explained to him all my problems and immediately he reply to me that it will be very easy for him to solve, i have been helping people with situation like the one i have. And he also gave me some proof to be really sure of his work, and he assured me that my husband will come back to me immediately he is through with the spell casting. And also he told me to put all my trust in him, and I really believe him. So it was 9:00 am on the next morning, when I was about going to work, when i received my husband's call, and he told me that he was coming back home , and he apologized to me, and told me that he is very sorry for the pain that he has cost me. And after some minutes later, he really came back home, and that was how we continued our marriage with lots of love and happiness again, and our love was now stronger than how it were before. And he also told me that once my heart desire has been granted unto me that i should go and testify of his work right here on the internet. Right now I am the happiest woman on earth today as I am writing this testimony, and I want to really thank " Dr. Areghan " for bringing back my husband, and for bringing joy and love to my life. My advice for you out there who your husband or your wife is acting strange or behaving the same way like this, or you have any problem with your relationship or anything related to do with spell casting, is for you to go and visit this VIA email: getyourspelltemple@hotmail.com, and i assure you that he will be of help to you, and I am 90% sure that he will solve it out. Thank Dr. Areghan.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe that I of last year will be happy today. It really surprises me that there are still truthful woman on this earth that is very powerful. My happiness was restored by allspelltemple@gmail.com I have been scammed by so many false spell casters claiming to be able to bring back my wife who left me for a younger man until last week when I mail Dr. kiggi who stick to his words. She is the best I can recommend for anyone of any problem.
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ReplyDeleteI have always wanted to be able to not live paycheck to paycheck or have any debt. I worked in accounting for about 20 years and was barely able to make ends meet. It seemed like any time I moved up in the company and received a raise, my living expenses would go up significantly and I was never able to get ahead. lottery spells. Then one day my best friend told me the truth about what he did when his wife left him. He had a love spell cast and she stopped the divorce proceedings and they got back together. When he told me this I asked who he used and he gave me their email address which is:professionallovespell@hotmail.com and I immediately contacted them for help. I saw that they offered different kinds of money spells to help win the lottery. I was immediately intrigued. I have always felt like I was going to win the lottery someday. I had the jackpot lottery spell cast and awaited my win. I was told to play the lottery each week and I did what I was told. I played the lottery each week anyways, so it did not change anything. Within about two weeks it happened. I won $100,000!! I could not believe it! It was not enough money to retire right away, but I invested it well and it has allowed me to go down to part time work and will help me retire much earlier. I am eternally grateful for finding their email address:professionallovespell@hotmail.com
congratulation to me,i have great thing to tell the world about a great man name dr ogogodu for what he did for me,this great man help me to get back my lover with 24hours with out know delay this man help me to get back frank who left me just because he find another lady but thanks to this great man who interval in the matter,when i contacted this great man he told me that i should not worry that i am going to get him back,at first i did not believe because my friend told that so people are scam they just want to take your money,i now said that i should give a try that so people are real so i now did what he ask me to do,to my greatest surprise my lover call me and told me that he love me that he is so sorry for what he did to me so now i am so happy with him he now love me more than before so my friend out there i want you to know this great man can help me you to get back your lover without know delay thanks to this great man dr ogogodu so if you need is help contact him on email ogogodutempleofsolution@gmail.com or call him with this cell number +2348078999655 so my name is Natasha Donald i live in united kingdom,but if you want to talk to me about this great man you can call me so that we can talk ok this is my private cell number +447031973121 call me with it ok thanks to everyone that is happy for me.
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Hello friends,my name is EMILIO i want to give thanks to the great OZALOGBO who helped me allot in getting back my love and also helped me in my financial problem.i was in relationship with ANTHONIA both of us lived together in love and in happiness, suddenly she just work up one morning telling me that she is sick and tired of me i was so shocked and confused cause i never did anything wrong to her still i had to plead to her because i love her so much, but she still insisted to breakup with me, i tried all i could to get her back but it was not possible, after she left i was some how financially down i did not know what happened to my finance, so i decided to contact some spell casters which happens to be scams, i was frustrated then decided not to contact any spell caster again, one day i was watching a show when i saw a woman named TINA was giving testimony on how this great man named Dr OZALOGBO helped her in getting back her lover within 24 hours so that was how i decided to give a try and i contacted Dr OZALOGBO and told him about how she left me and my finance,the only thing he said was that i my lover will come back to me and my finance will come up again, that he is going to do all within 24 hours, so just decided to watch and see. in the next 24 hours which he said i got a call from her and she was pleading to me that she is very sorry for what she did to me, the most surprising thing was that the job i applied for in a company for almost 4 months, they just called and told me that i should come and start the work that am capable of doing the job, i was so surprised a tears of joy rolled down from my eyes,i was very very happy and she just came to my house and she started pleading to me, so i accepted her apology and now we are living happily together now, and am working in the company now am happy again. all thanks to Dr OZALOGBO for helping me and for making my dream to come through. for help and for appreciation you can contact Dr OZALOGBO through ozalogboshrine@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteMy Name is Lee Marie, From United Kingdom. I wish to share my testimonies with the general public about what this man called Dr godfather.has just done for me , this man has just brought back my lost Ex husband to me with his great spell, I was married to this man called Steven we were together for a long time and we loved our self’s but when I was unable to give him a child for 9years he left me and told me he can’t continue anymore then I was now looking for ways to get him back until a friend of mine told me about this man and gave his contact Email: godfatherlovespelltemple@gmail.com then you won't believe this when I contacted this man on my problems he prepared this spell cast and bring my lost husband back, and after a month I miss my month and go for a test and the result stated am pregnant am happy today am a mother of a baby girl, thank you once again the great Dr.godfather for what you have done for me, if you are out there passing through any of this problems listed below:
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(2) if you always have bad dreams.
(3) You want to be promoted in your office.
(4) You want women/men to run after you.
(5) If you want a child.
(6) You want to be rich.
(7) You want to tie your husband/wife to be yours forever.
(8) If you need financial assistance.
(9) Herbal care.
(10)stop Divorce
(11)human invisibility
then contact him with his email address godfatherlovespelltemple@gmail.com or you can call him with his mobile number +2347037285140 and see his great works.