I think we've all read the correspondence piece in Nature yesterday on how we don't need to worry about gender bias, because it really all comes down to women having babies and therefore publishing less papers. Lukas Koube, the author, already wrote this as a comment last year, but apparently Nature still thought this piece was worthy of being put in the journal. I don't think I need to add anything to what Melissa WilsonSayres wrote about it yesterday. She already says that it really is possible to be a scientist AND a parent, and that babies are often made by more than one person, and that the other parent (often, but not always a man) can also pitch in. And as we established last week, science is about generating ideas (or not?) and I might as well generate a scientific idea while nursing, or while changing a diaper.
Okay maybe I do want to add something: Really, Nature? Did you think someone who has published zero scientific papers knows whether you can publish papers while pregnant or taking care of a baby? And Lukas Koube, do you really think that that is the only thing holding women in science back?!
But it is something that is on my mind often: how many papers would I have had during this post-doc if I wouldn't have had children? Would I have worked harder and/or longer? I can say that I've become a lot more efficient since having BlueEyes. Perhaps I'm not in the lab as long, but I am very productive while I'm there (and so is my husband I have to add). But let's be scientific and calculate this: When I leave here in two months I will have been a post-doc for four years, in which I have had 2 children. I have taken 3 and 4 months of leave*, so that adds up to 7 months of not doing experiments (although currently a tech is doing some of my experiments). Also, during my pregnancies I was less productive than during non-pregnant periods because of being nauseous and tired and foggy (although working also helped to keep my mind off of feeling crappy)**. And the 1+ year of sleep deprivation also didn't add to productivity (but that was divided mostly equal between my husband and me). So say that I missed somewhere between 6 months to a year in productivity out of four years. That's 12.5-25% of my post-doc. I think that's an overestimation, but that would mean that instead of 4 papers I would have 3. Or instead of one or more high impact factor papers I would have medium impact factor papers.
BUT there are so many more factors to this: could better mentoring have led to more productivity (YES!), are publications in high impact factor journals dependent on which field you work in (yes), whether your data are negative (yes), whether stuff works like it's supposed to (yes), etc etc.
So to conclude: assuming I make it through the "post-doc to faculty bottle neck", in the bigger scheme of my scientific career this is going to be peanuts. If I am a scientist for the next 35 years (until I'm 65), then that 6 months to a year is only 1-2% of the time. And not every woman has children. So any disproportion of female to male authors more than 1% is due to something else than having babies. There, Lukas Koube. I just used some science to calculate this WHILE AT HOME WITH A BABY!
The biggest problem right now: using my precious nap time to blog about this instead of work on a paper...
* I know that some people (are able to) take more leave, and I also realize that many female scientists (at least me) won't be able to sit at home for 3 months without thinking or doing any science.
** Here I should add that my pregnancies were pretty smooth sailing, and I know that for some it can be 9 months of total agony. And for some people the process of becoming pregnant takes a lot of mental, emotional and physical energy.
Showing posts with label women in science. Show all posts
Showing posts with label women in science. Show all posts
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Friday, October 18, 2013
My thoughts on harassment
It took me about a week to gather my thoughts after I
read that this
happened earlier this week. And even trying to write this post now, I’m
having a hard time to put my thoughts on paper. It seems like “it’s not that
big of a deal” is engrained in me. Like @AmasianV
wrote:
“Because [these remarks I got] never really affected me much at the time, so
why make a big deal out of nothing??”
Thinking about this all week made me wonder: have I been
harassed? I have got remarks on how I looked, comments on my body (especially
when pregnant) and the occasional “you look very young” in a setting where it
was not necessary to comment on my body or my looks. I wasn’t trying out to be
a cheerleader; I was trying to convey my science. But at the same time I don’t
mind getting compliments on my outfit for example, so that makes it kind of a
grey area sometimes. I'm not sure I would be in favor of eliminating any comments people can make in this regard, but the hard part is that different people have different levels of what is acceptable. This makes it important to say something when you feel that line has been crossed.
What is worse about this, and I only fully realize that
after this week, is my inability to speak up when I get comments I feel
uncomfortable with. Sometimes it takes me a good 15 minutes to realize I just
received an offensive comment and to come up with something to say in return.
Other times (and this is much worse) I’m afraid that speaking up will come at a
cost for me. If harassment happens in a professional situation where you are
harassed by someone who is your superior I would be afraid that it backfires.
For example, what if you tell your PI not to make certain remarks anymore and
he takes it the wrong way? Even in the situation where you don’t work for this
person anymore, you’re still reliant on your PI to get papers out, to get
letters of recommendations and to stay in the club of scientists that you try
to become a part of too. And I’m not sure if filing an official complaint makes
these outcomes better or even far worse. So even if you recognize that a
comment someone made makes you feel harassed, it takes a boatload of courage to
speak up about this.
It makes me wonder: what can we do to make this easier
and how do you make sure speaking up doesn’t ruin your career? So my #ripplesofdoubt
aren’t so much about whether I have got to this point in my career because of
looks or whatever, but more about whether it is possible to do something about
this without destroying where you are.
Sunday, October 13, 2013
Late to the party but I am #standingwithDNLee
As Dr24hours said: "If you haven't been under a rock the past couple days you already know about this". I wasn't under a rock, but I did not have time to switch on my laptop this weekend and I haven't mastered the art of posting something from my phone without getting too annoyed trying to cut and paste links.. What happened is this: DNLee, a scientist who writes a blog called "The Urban Scientist" and who happens to be female and black was asked to blog for Biology Online. When she asked how much she would get paid and the response was zero dollars, she declined and then the guy from Biology Online CALLED HER A WHORE.... You can read the whole story here because her own blog post at Scientific American got taken down...
I'm sorry that this happened and I agree with the numerous other people who posted about this that the one thing that can help here is to create awareness about what happens to women and minorities. Even if it happens a little late....
I'm sorry that this happened and I agree with the numerous other people who posted about this that the one thing that can help here is to create awareness about what happens to women and minorities. Even if it happens a little late....
Friday, October 4, 2013
Neuroscientist Dick Swaab says gender specific toys are a natural consequence of brain development
My homecountry is getting ready for Sinterklaas, which means lots of people need to buy toys and the large toy stores send these big books full of ads to people. Bart Smit, a large toy store in my homecountry, sent a book full of ads containing this one:
| Translation of pink text:"You want to be as good as mommy!" |
Indeed, not
very gender neutral, and it gets even worse when on subsequent pages all
the sciency toys are advertised with just boys.
Last night this was discussed in one of my homecountry’s
late night tv shows “Pauw & Witteman”,
where one of the guests involved in this discussion was Dr. Dick Swaab, a neuroscientist
and former head of the Netherlands Institute
for Neuroscience. You might think that a scientist is well aware of all the
sociological science showing that when girls are presented with stereotypes
like this (pink vacuum cleaners, women being the ones doing housework while men
do science), they perform worse on things like math and science, and that
therefore it would be good to try to get rid of these stereotypical images. On
the contrary, Dr. Swaab stated that both research on monkeys and his own
experience with his son and daughter (yes, n=1) showed that girls like to play
with dolls and boys like to play with cars. He literally said that the only
time when this is not the case, is when individuals have been exposed to toxins
in utero. So according to him, it was totally justified to show people
these stereotypical images of girls doing housework and boys doing science,
because that was what they were programmed to do anyway. Yay neuroscience….
Perhaps not surprisingly, at the Netherlands Institute for Neuroscience, out of
the 20 research team leaders, only three are female. I could not find on the
website how many of the people that clean this institute are male and female
for comparison…
Monday, September 30, 2013
Do I suck at feminism?
You know how sometimes it takes so long to form an
opinion that it’s almost not worth voicing it anymore? That’s what happened
after I read this
list of tips for male academics on how to deal with women on TenureSheWrote. My first
opinion was:”If we (women) are telling men how to behave, isn’t that exactly
what we don’t want to have happen to ourselves?”. Isn’t the idea of feminism
that we (men and women) are all treated equally and that therefore neither men
nor women should tell the other sex how to behave?
It is not that I don’t agree with the list; I’ve had many
of those things happen to me and I think that sucks. But after seeing the
amount of anger and annoyance when people commented on this exact issue, I
didn’t really dare to voice that opinion until I had thought about it a bit
more. Because the reactions on twitter and in the comments made me doubt:”do I
suck at feminism?”. Am I too privileged with a grandmother who had a job and a
grandfather who walked behind the stroller? Am I too privileged with two
parents who have PhDs? Am I too privileged because my mom always treated my
brother and me the same? Am I too privileged because all my life I had this
knowledge instilled in me that I could become anything I wanted if I just
worked hard enough for it? Even though I get comments on the way I’m dressed and
the amount of children I produce or the fact that I look way too young to be
where I am in my career, my first thought is:”You can say that, but I have
every right to be here and be as awesome as whoever just gave me that comment.”
But this upbringing also makes me think that everybody
thinks the same way. And that maybe even though a man may comment on my outfit,
that does not make him think less of me in a scientific way. This is where I probably
go wrong. Perhaps my idea that if we all work together we can create a happy
society where nobody needs to tell the other sex how to behave is a bit too
optimistic. Perhaps it is necessary to tell each other how to behave in order
to create more equality. Not just in science, but for everybody who needs feminism.
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