tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1923282658637824205.post5275241245334062365..comments2024-03-26T10:41:42.117-07:00Comments on InBabyAttachMode: Who writes the papers?InBabyAttachModehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07895094545069682233noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1923282658637824205.post-79855405618245575062012-07-28T17:12:41.683-07:002012-07-28T17:12:41.683-07:00I agree with you that as a trainee it is your own ...I agree with you that as a trainee it is your own responsibility to get stuff written. But here I was talking about PIs who don't allow trainees to write anything or who just dismiss whatever the trainees come up with. I have multiple examples around me of people who want to learn to write papers but have PIs who decide to do all the writing themselves.InBabyAttachModehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07895094545069682233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1923282658637824205.post-63385492985638443082012-07-28T08:47:59.533-07:002012-07-28T08:47:59.533-07:00The ability to get that shit DONE is a key trait o...The ability to get that shit DONE is a key trait of scientists. PIs have only so much patience with slooooooow ass trainees. Yes, you need to extend them the training. But if trainees spend their time online whining about who "lets" them write rather than putting a significantly changed draft, consistent with the PI's comments back on te desk....Drugmonkeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1923282658637824205.post-81396233123125515592012-07-27T11:59:49.421-07:002012-07-27T11:59:49.421-07:00Yes I totally agree. And what if you happen to hav...Yes I totally agree. And what if you happen to have both a PhD and a post-doc advisor who writes your papers for you? Then you find yourself in a faculty position without ever having written a paper... And by that time I guess there's no one to write papers for you.InBabyAttachModehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07895094545069682233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1923282658637824205.post-17433844574824521372012-07-27T11:57:04.423-07:002012-07-27T11:57:04.423-07:00I was shocked when I found out some grad students ...I was shocked when I found out some grad students didn't write their own papers. Some of them have moved onto post-docs now. They're getting the short end of the stick in terms of training in my opinion. It might sound like a sweet deal now...but what about when they end up writing a manuscript during their post doc and it's their first time. And what if they are horrible at it? In the eyes of their post-doc advisor, won't that reflect badly on them as well as their PhD advisor?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com